EV vs Gas

I’m late to this comparison, but I didn’t have a reason to pay attention to electric vehicles (EVs) until our trip to Denver in July. As seems to be the case regularly there, the rental car company didn’t have any available inventory of gas vehicles, even though that’s what we booked. I’m actually starting to wonder if they have any gas vehicles because it’s suspicious that they thrust these EVs on customers so consistently. Here are some quick thoughts on an EV after experiencing it, but also the gas usage versus electricity usage math comparison we did while there.

EV EXPERIENCE: THE NEGATIVE

It started out stressful. Had we been given a tutorial or any guidance at all, it may have started out easier. However, we started the trip by having to wait in a 90 minute line to even get the car. Then we were greeted by a disgruntled employee who had no intention of helping us. Then when Mr. ODA tried to talk to a manager, she just kept saying “we don’t have any gas vehicles. I can’t do anything for you.” Well ma’am, you could maybe take 2.5 minutes and quell all our fears of the unknown, in a foreign place, while traveling with 3 kids that are 5 and younger.

The biggest issue was our timing. We arrived later in the day, needed to get the kids fed and their bedrooms set up, while also allocating enough time for them to just play and have fun since we’ve been traveling all day. The next morning, we planned to get out of the house and head to the mountains. That’s the problem. We don’t know our range. We don’t know where to fill up or how to fill up. We do know that charging it is not a 4-5 minute process like filling up a tank of gas. We do know that there aren’t super chargers everywhere. There was a lot of “I don’t know what I don’t know.”

Luckily, a friend of ours recently had a similar experience, and she shared some tidbits with us. For instance, there are multiple charger apps you need to download. Then once you download all of them and use the map to figure out where in town the closest one is to what you’re doing, you have to figure out what the data means. “6.6,” $ vs. $$$, “fast charging.” There were different filter options in different apps, but no legend on what these terms mean.

The first charge came while Mr. ODA dropped us off at McDonald’s, drove down the block to a “fast charger,” ran down to eat with us, then ran back to get the car and pick us up. This wasn’t ideal. This was really affecting our trip with this dark cloud hanging over us trying to figure out how to efficiently charge this thing. Plugging a car in while trying to entertain 3 kids for 45 minutes wasn’t how I expected our trip to go.

EV EXPERIENCE: FIGURING IT OUT

ChargePoint ended up being the easiest to use. They have a lot of stations around Denver, especially free ones. We looked for places to eat a meal where we could utilize a free charger and take advantage of the “down” time. It involved walking a block or two each time, but it gave us the peace of mind to get through the next phase.

One morning, we went to Red Rocks. There were a few free charging stations in the parking lot. We plugged in, spent two hours exploring the place, and received about 80 miles on our range, which was plenty for the next day of our trip. That night, we went to a concert at Ball Arena. Instead of parking where most of the other concert-goers parked, we went one block further and parked a well-lit, clean garage. We had to pay to park in the garage, but the charging station was free.

We also learned how to utilize the charging available within the car itself. EVs don’t “coast.” They have regenerative braking. You basically drive the car only using the accelerator, and don’t use the brake. You slightly hold down the accelerator to keep the car moving as you approached a stop, and it charges as that happens. There were different levels you could put the car at to take advantage of this charging process.

GAS VS ELECTRIC COSTS

We spent time figuring out the apps and the types of chargers. We avoided the chargers that had flat fees on top of the kwh charge cost. Almost all of the chargers had a “parking fee,” which meant that if you remained plugged in after the car was fully charged, they’d charge you by the minute for taking up that space. It makes a lot of sense since charging spots are limited, and you want to disincentivize people just walking away from their car for hours.

After we figured out the process of how to use the vehicle and the charging locations, we were able to do some math on the cost per mile. We specifically charged the vehicle either at free locations or in off-peak charging time (there is variable pricing on some chargers). We calculated that the cost per mile came about a few cents higher than if we were in a gas vehicle. However, that could be higher if you were charging during peak time or you needed to use the fast charging locations more often based on your vehicle distance/use. Gas prices in the Denver area were in the high $3.20s to low $3.30s, and we calculated a charge equivalent of $3.34.

There is the opportunity cost of your time. It only takes a few minutes to fill your car with gas. You’re not walking away from an EV charging location in less than 20, and it’ll likely be longer. If you have the ability to charge at your house, while the car is in the driveway, then it changes the equation. Since we were at a rental, that wasn’t an option available to us.

EV EXPERIENCE: END RESULT THOUGHTS

After the initial anger and fear of the unknown subsided, I’m not against EVs. If you can charge them at your own home, they’re great. They’ll get you around town just fine, and you’ll have the convenience of it charging while you’re home and comfortable. Your home charger won’t be a fast charger, but having it plugged in overnight for that 10-14 hour charge wouldn’t be an inconvenience.

I wouldn’t take them on long road trips. There would need to be careful planning of your charge range compared to where charging stations are. Unless it’s a truly a fast charger (15-20 minutes, and more expensive), you’ll need to plan to be somewhere for hours to get a charge. Then there’s the fear of availability when you arrive there, and whether you’ll get a spot because it’s not likely you can just travel down the road a few miles to find another station.


I wrote the initial draft of this in August. So it’s interesting to say – we bought an EV.

Summer Trips

In 2021, we looked to buy a lake house. We tried so hard to find something, and we almost settled on something that didn’t fully make us happy. It was March or April of that year, and we finally stepped back and said, “instead of buying a house here that we feel pressured to come to every weekend, what if we just went on vacation more.” Up until that point, we traveled a good bit, but it was typically with a purpose instead of just traveling for the sake of seeing somewhere new (e.g., one of us tagging along on work travel). We calculated that our mortgage payment on that second house would be $1200 per month. That was our budget for travel each month. I wrote a whole post about it.

Then I got pregnant and we bought a new primary residence in the summer of 2022. Almost all our ‘travel’ that summer was just us going to the new house to work on it before we moved in. Then the summer of 2023 was spent recovering from the newborn phase of that third kid that was unbelievably painful. I was just happy to be sleeping and in a routine again, and I wasn’t willing to leave home much and risk lack of sleep.

We made up for it this summer.


JUNE: MD, NY, OH, MI $1,251

Our first trip of the summer was two weeks long. I was so nervous to manage 3 kids (one of which is still a high maintenance sleeper) and a dog for that long, but I had hoped it would be fine if I prepared correctly. We hit four states.

Our son was on the Oriole’s for his baseball team this spring, so that became his favorite MLB team. It just so happened that they were playing at home on our drive from KY to NY (meaning, if we really wanted to, Baltimore could be on the way). As an added bonus, they were playing the Braves, which is Mr. ODA’s favorite team. So we made that work. We booked a hotel in Baltimore that was pet friendly and walking distance to the stadium, and then we bought the tickets. Actually, we bought two tickets for 5 of us to go. The Oriole’s stadium has a program where if you buy a ticket in the upper section, you can have up to two free tickets for kids up to 9 years old. It’s an incredible program. The detour cost us more in tolls than we’d typically spend on our route. It was worth it. Our son watched the whole game and was so happy with it.

Then we traveled to NY. There’s no lodging cost there because we stay at my dad’s house. We went to the local team’s baseball game one night, hung out at the beach one night, had two cookouts, and went to my cousin’s bridal shower. The bridal shower was the reason for the trip. The Michigan component then was booked as the other side of the family’s annual trip. It didn’t make sense for us to drive home from NY and then back up to MI, so we just buckled up for the two weeks gone. We didn’t eat at any restaurants while we were in NY, so our costs were a couple of grocery trips and our family cookouts.

The trip from NY to MI was 13.5 hours without any stops, so we didn’t want to push the kids that far. We typically do the KY to NY trip in one day. That takes 13-14 hours depending on traffic and our stops. It would take about 11.5-12 hours without kids. We usually do two quick stops and one longer meal out of the car when we drive straight through. But with it starting at 13+ hours, I didn’t want to risk it. Plus, I wanted to arrive in Michigan around check in time, which would have us leaving NY at about 2 am. I covet my kids’ sleep too much to risk that one!

Our stop on the way was Cuyahoga Falls, OH. Again, we needed to find something that was pet friendly without charging us $175 to have the dog there for 14 hours. We found a hotel that didn’t charge for a pet, and it appears that’s because they don’t really care about cleanliness. The room was disgusting. The mirrors looked like they’d never been cleaned, the counters had someone’s old rice on them, the door wasn’t fully attached to its hinges, and the sinks didn’t drain. At least the bedding was clean (I inspected closely). I was grateful to only be there for 14 hours.

We went hiking that morning and then headed to MI, dropping the dog off at a sitter on the way there. We use Rover to find a sitter, which is where the sitter takes the dog into their house. I appreciate this type of care/attention than a kennel; we’ve used this service for 11 years now.

Our MI trip was Mr. ODA’s family trip for the year. His parents treat us to the house, and the kids’ families cover the food. Usually our trip doesn’t involve many extra expenses, but this year we sought out a place with activities, so there was a lot of money spent. We went on a dune buggy ride, walked a windmill island, went to a little ‘dutch village’ theme park, picked cherries, and spent a lot of time at the beach. We usually eat all our meals at the AirBnB, but we did have two meals out and lots of ice cream this time around. Honestly, it was the best trip we’ve taken in a while. I appreciated the ‘vacation’ aspect of it, where we did things around the area and had fun with activities.


JULY: VA $570

This was actually a work trip. Last summer, we didn’t make it to Richmond to do property walk throughs because our baby was such a handful. We’ve had a lot of work done over the last year, and there were a few things noted by tenants that are just easier for us to handle in a few minutes than pay someone hundreds to handle.

We cleaned the siding on multiple houses, checked some gutters, replaced a few things, and painted a front door and front porch. It was a 3 night trip, and we put about 20 hours worth of work into it. It was hard to juggle the work that needed to be done, having 3 kids in tow, and a heat index of over 110 each day, but we got what we could get done. I wrote a post about the work we did earlier this summer. Our expenses were the hotel ($401), gas, and food. We actually had a surprisingly low food expense on this trip considering we stayed in a hotel (lack of kitchen and time).

While there, we were able to see a few of our old friends. However, we planned this trip fairly last minute and had to fit it around other activities already scheduled at home, so we didn’t get as much ‘play’ time as we’d prefer.


JULY: CO $3,350

Mr. ODA’s brother wanted to celebrate his 40th birthday by hiking 14-ers in Colorado. He invited a few people to join, and Mr. ODA spent the first half of this year getting in shape for that activity. Honestly, in January, this idea seemed so far away, so it was exciting when the moment arrived. Mr. ODA wanted to go out earlier than the trip’s original itinerary to acclimate to the change in elevation. That’s where I came in.

We booked a flight for all 5 of us to fly out there on the 18th (well, the baby was free). We spent the weekend around the Denver area, and then I flew home with the kids on the 22nd, while he stayed to hang out with his brother’s crew.

We had to buy flights, rent a car, book lodging, and buy groceries/meals. We did more-than-average entertainment for this trip with a concert and baseball game, so that increased our expenses.

On our first full day, we visited Mount Blue Sky, which is a drive up to the top of a 14er (a summit above 14,000 feet). It was a really unique and cool experience. On Saturday, we hiked at Red Rocks and went to a concert at Ball Arena. On Sunday, we went to a Rockies game and walked around Denver. It was a great trip, and the kids were troopers through all the fun.


AUGUST: NY $430

My cousin got married in NY. Typically, I’d take this opportunity to get my whole family to NY to see my side of the family. However, our oldest started school already, and I didn’t want him to miss any of that, especially on day 3. The whole family flying to NY is expensive, plus we’d have to figure out the babysitting need for while we’re at the wedding. While I have a few people I could call on, it’s more difficult when the intent is for the closest adults I know to be at the wedding.

We booked direct flights for Mr. ODA and me to fly out Friday afternoon and come back Sunday afternoon. We had the kids stay with grandparents for the two nights, and this way the grandparents didn’t have to manage any kid activities except getting our oldest off the bus. Our two flights cost $376.40, and it included a checked bag if we wanted it because of our American Airlines credit card rewards. Parking at the airport is $11 per day, so that was $33. Our original plan was to take the train from JFK to where my dad’s house is, but we pivoted because he offered to pick us up and take us out to dinner. Our meals were covered except for on the way out and the way back, and one coffee I purchased while there. It was a nice little trip where we had fun and could just focus on that versus managing the kids’ schedule, so I appreciated that.


Mr. ODA had two work trips this summer on top of all that we did as a family. Those net us income instead of expenses, so I won’t go into them. I mention it just to point out how busy and entertained we were. I’d say we’re looking forward to winding down, but now baseball and gymnastics start up on top of managing kids at two different schools. But I’m loving it and looking forward to what this next season brings.