EV vs Gas

I’m late to this comparison, but I didn’t have a reason to pay attention to electric vehicles (EVs) until our trip to Denver in July. As seems to be the case regularly there, the rental car company didn’t have any available inventory of gas vehicles, even though that’s what we booked. I’m actually starting to wonder if they have any gas vehicles because it’s suspicious that they thrust these EVs on customers so consistently. Here are some quick thoughts on an EV after experiencing it, but also the gas usage versus electricity usage math comparison we did while there.

EV EXPERIENCE: THE NEGATIVE

It started out stressful. Had we been given a tutorial or any guidance at all, it may have started out easier. However, we started the trip by having to wait in a 90 minute line to even get the car. Then we were greeted by a disgruntled employee who had no intention of helping us. Then when Mr. ODA tried to talk to a manager, she just kept saying “we don’t have any gas vehicles. I can’t do anything for you.” Well ma’am, you could maybe take 2.5 minutes and quell all our fears of the unknown, in a foreign place, while traveling with 3 kids that are 5 and younger.

The biggest issue was our timing. We arrived later in the day, needed to get the kids fed and their bedrooms set up, while also allocating enough time for them to just play and have fun since we’ve been traveling all day. The next morning, we planned to get out of the house and head to the mountains. That’s the problem. We don’t know our range. We don’t know where to fill up or how to fill up. We do know that charging it is not a 4-5 minute process like filling up a tank of gas. We do know that there aren’t super chargers everywhere. There was a lot of “I don’t know what I don’t know.”

Luckily, a friend of ours recently had a similar experience, and she shared some tidbits with us. For instance, there are multiple charger apps you need to download. Then once you download all of them and use the map to figure out where in town the closest one is to what you’re doing, you have to figure out what the data means. “6.6,” $ vs. $$$, “fast charging.” There were different filter options in different apps, but no legend on what these terms mean.

The first charge came while Mr. ODA dropped us off at McDonald’s, drove down the block to a “fast charger,” ran down to eat with us, then ran back to get the car and pick us up. This wasn’t ideal. This was really affecting our trip with this dark cloud hanging over us trying to figure out how to efficiently charge this thing. Plugging a car in while trying to entertain 3 kids for 45 minutes wasn’t how I expected our trip to go.

EV EXPERIENCE: FIGURING IT OUT

ChargePoint ended up being the easiest to use. They have a lot of stations around Denver, especially free ones. We looked for places to eat a meal where we could utilize a free charger and take advantage of the “down” time. It involved walking a block or two each time, but it gave us the peace of mind to get through the next phase.

One morning, we went to Red Rocks. There were a few free charging stations in the parking lot. We plugged in, spent two hours exploring the place, and received about 80 miles on our range, which was plenty for the next day of our trip. That night, we went to a concert at Ball Arena. Instead of parking where most of the other concert-goers parked, we went one block further and parked a well-lit, clean garage. We had to pay to park in the garage, but the charging station was free.

We also learned how to utilize the charging available within the car itself. EVs don’t “coast.” They have regenerative braking. You basically drive the car only using the accelerator, and don’t use the brake. You slightly hold down the accelerator to keep the car moving as you approached a stop, and it charges as that happens. There were different levels you could put the car at to take advantage of this charging process.

GAS VS ELECTRIC COSTS

We spent time figuring out the apps and the types of chargers. We avoided the chargers that had flat fees on top of the kwh charge cost. Almost all of the chargers had a “parking fee,” which meant that if you remained plugged in after the car was fully charged, they’d charge you by the minute for taking up that space. It makes a lot of sense since charging spots are limited, and you want to disincentivize people just walking away from their car for hours.

After we figured out the process of how to use the vehicle and the charging locations, we were able to do some math on the cost per mile. We specifically charged the vehicle either at free locations or in off-peak charging time (there is variable pricing on some chargers). We calculated that the cost per mile came about a few cents higher than if we were in a gas vehicle. However, that could be higher if you were charging during peak time or you needed to use the fast charging locations more often based on your vehicle distance/use. Gas prices in the Denver area were in the high $3.20s to low $3.30s, and we calculated a charge equivalent of $3.34.

There is the opportunity cost of your time. It only takes a few minutes to fill your car with gas. You’re not walking away from an EV charging location in less than 20, and it’ll likely be longer. If you have the ability to charge at your house, while the car is in the driveway, then it changes the equation. Since we were at a rental, that wasn’t an option available to us.

EV EXPERIENCE: END RESULT THOUGHTS

After the initial anger and fear of the unknown subsided, I’m not against EVs. If you can charge them at your own home, they’re great. They’ll get you around town just fine, and you’ll have the convenience of it charging while you’re home and comfortable. Your home charger won’t be a fast charger, but having it plugged in overnight for that 10-14 hour charge wouldn’t be an inconvenience.

I wouldn’t take them on long road trips. There would need to be careful planning of your charge range compared to where charging stations are. Unless it’s a truly a fast charger (15-20 minutes, and more expensive), you’ll need to plan to be somewhere for hours to get a charge. Then there’s the fear of availability when you arrive there, and whether you’ll get a spot because it’s not likely you can just travel down the road a few miles to find another station.


I wrote the initial draft of this in August. So it’s interesting to say – we bought an EV.

November Financial Update

We bought a hot tub! It’s something that we’ve been talking about for almost a year, went looking at in May, and then finally ordered it last month. It was delivered and set up this week.

RENTALS

We replaced the roof on one of the houses. I go into that a little more in the ‘insurance’ section, but that was a $6,300 payment that was made.

INSURANCE

The fact that I have a separate category to cover my insurance efforts is just frustrating.

Last month, I complained that we were threatened with our liability policy being dropped because we didn’t provide the necessary documentation … that. we. were. never. asked. for. So I dropped everything and got the documentation as fast as I could, while being praised for my organization and response time as usual. Then a few weeks later, I was told that our policy has expired because they couldn’t get to our documentation review fast enough. Awesome. I love the one way street. We were finally informed that everything was reviewed and our policy was reinstated with no lapse in coverage. I paid that policy.

During that process, we were informed that one of our policy providers does not qualify to be covered under our liability policy because their company rating fell below A. Ironically, we had already pulled all but this one policy from this company. We requested a quote from another agent, but she said they couldn’t write a policy on the account at this time. It’s frustrating to me that once you file claims on your insurance (which it’s there for), you’re blacklisted. There were no claims for 8 years of rental properties and 12 years of homeownership, but that doesn’t matter. Since 3/4 of our claims in the last year are all in the same location … all those houses were hit by the same wind storms to cause damage. I certainly didn’t request trees to fall on two houses. Add in that the damage to our house was severe, making our policy pay out high for the last year, so getting new insurance policies where necessary (and on houses with no claims) has been difficult. There’s nothing to say we can’t keep this policy on this house even though the rating declined (which I would have never even known about), so we’re not stressing about it.

One of the wind damaged houses with a claim caused that company to drop us. That’s fine. I have been working on this replacement since September 23rd and finally got everything squared away on October 31st. One of the frustrations on that was that I’d ask multiple questions, and this guy would either not respond to an email or respond to half of it. One of my complaints was that my original request was for $500k of liability coverage (which is higher than offered on most policies I’ve had written, but is the minimum required for our liability policy), but he wrote it at $1 million. I asked for it to be lowered no less than 4 times. He finally responded when I got stern and called out the lack of action; he said that since it’s only about $25-30, they just go ahead and do it. I finally said (again) that I have liability policies that give me extra coverage, so I don’t want my individual ones to give extra coverage “just because,” and that it’s up to me to decide whether that $30 is worth it. He finally reduced it. The new policies are $510 more than the policy we were covered with that got dropped.

Oh – the original policy that we got dropped from included two houses. It wasn’t clear whether the company was dropping both houses, but I went ahead and switched both. I was hoping that the new policies would be written like all my other houses – individually. Unfortunately, it’s under one company and they handle things the same way, so both houses are tied together under one policy number again. I have multiple houses covered by Travelers, and they’re each on their own policy. I don’t understand why these houses get lumped together.

Another house of ours was given “high risk” insurance because of our roof condition. Our partner didn’t tell us about the transfer of insurance or the reason why. I discovered it when I received weird paperwork for our liability policy (which, ironically, now that I think of it, my liability coverage didn’t call out as odd, but they weren’t happy about that company getting downgraded…hmm). I discovered this on September 6th. I started getting quotes for roofers immediately, but that process took forever. I finally got the roof replaced on October 18th, and then I requested her to find us new insurance on October 31st. We have a new policy being issued effective November 15th, which will cancel the higher insurance. The total savings equates to about $450, but it’s still over $300 more expensive than the original one that we walked away from.

TAXES

Central KY taxes were due this past month. I paid 4 houses worth of taxes. 3 were cashed immediately. I pay via online bill pay, where they send the check on my behalf, instead of online because there are fees associated with that. Well, now one of them is floating out there without my knowing what to do next. There’s a 2% discount if you pay before 11/2, and that check didn’t get cashed by that deadline. So now I have to make phone calls to track down why the check I sent via bill pay didn’t arrive, even though another one arrived just fine. I also have a city that I have to pay a small amount of taxes to, and I’m waiting for those two checks to cash as well.

NET WORTH

Our net worth is almost $100k over last month’s. Not reflected in the credit card yet is the payment for the hot tub that just happened this week. By next month’s update, I’ll have to pay off the 0% interest credit card, so the total credit card number probably won’t change drastically.