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Hitting our Goals

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I mentioned at the beginning of the year that our general financial goal is $4 million net worth. I acknowledge that this is not a specific goal that most people can relate to. But I also pointed out that we weren’t always sitting with nearly that amount in our accounts, and that made me start thinking about where we were. This is long, but I didn’t think it worth splitting into multiple posts. I’ve gone into the topic in general, but this is our actual story and the steps we experienced.

This is just meant to show you that you can grow each year and slowly chip away at a goal. Everyone makes fun of the “don’t buy Starbucks everyday” philosophy. It’s not that saving that $7 per day is literally going to make you a millionaire in itself. It’s saying that if you’re willing to spend that $7 daily, that’s likely indicative of other spending in your day, and you should be more deliberate with your spending. I saw a meme on Instagram that said something similar about buying decor for your home, and if you’re willing to spend “just $25 on this lamp,” those little expenses add up over the year. I’m a broken record in saying make every purchase a deliberate, thought-out action; I went into how much effort (and years) I put in to purchasing a $4 tape dispenser on this post.

The background here is to first show you how I had no money, but I’ve been diligent on my spending and working towards goals. Mr. ODA was more of a saver and more prepared for the big life expenses in your early 20s. The part where we work towards buying a house is where we really buckled up and made life decisions that kept us on that track. Our money philosophies have gotten us to where we are today – every dollar has a purpose.

MY FINANCIAL HISTORY: COLLEGE, WHERE I STARTED MY INDEPENDENCE

I never liked relying on other people, so I was interested in making my own way as fast possible. My parents gave me an ultimatum during my sophomore year of college – either become a resident assistant for free room and board, or take out loans to help pay for it in the next two years. I didn’t want to take out loans, so I started looking for off campus housing. I didn’t mind living on campus. I have no idea why I was so dead-set against taking out loans and how that would have been ingrained in me at that time. But living off campus would allow me to pay month to month, instead of living on campus where I’d have to pay each semester’s housing costs up front.

On top of that, my dad offered me to buy out his car. He had let me drive the car to college that year, but around Christmas time, it started acting funny. It turned out that second gear in the transmission needed to be replaced. He said I could pay for the fix, and then it could be my car. I didn’t like the idea of being 3.5 hours away from my family and having a car that appeared unreliable. So I went car shopping, and I leased a Honda Civic. My car payment was about $300/month. I leased it instead of buying it because I didn’t need to put any money down.

I worked three jobs that summer after my sophomore year of college. It was so hard. I was working 40 hour weekends, and then I’d put hours in during the week. I remember getting burnt out and being overwhelmed because I had to miss my sister’s graduation party. I was working at a catering hall, which meant late hours on Friday and Saturday, and early hours on Sunday. I was also working at a bagel shop (big on Long Island), which was a 5:45 am call time, but at least I’d be done by 10 am. Then I was working as a cashier at K-Mart, which was Monday through Thursday in the afternoon or evening, and sometimes on Friday.

Even though I was working all those jobs, I still struggled with paying my bills once I got to college for my junior year. I paid too much for rent because I wanted to live on my own. None of my friends were interested in living off campus, and I was too afraid to live with someone I didn’t know. My parents ended up giving me $100/month for 6 months so I could pay to run my heat. I remember it being October, and I told my mom that I hadn’t turned my heat on yet. So she sent me the money each month to cover the heating bill instead of trying to live in layers and blankets because I didn’t want to pay for it.

When I moved back up to college, I was working at JCPenney while going to school. I did pretty well. My grades didn’t suffer, and I still felt like I had a life so I didn’t get burnt out with only work and school. I took on extra shifts and stopped going home for the smaller holidays (e.g., Thanksgiving) so that I could work.

MY FINANCIAL HISTORY: MY BIG GIRL JOB

My guidance counselor told me that financial firms would be expecting internships on my resume. This was 2007; financial firms were fat and happy, so they weren’t paying interns. I kept my eye on the job boards (which were literal bulletin boards) in the financial building. I found an internship with the Federal government that was paying $13/hour! I applied in August. I heard nothing for weeks, so I gave up hope. Suddenly, I received a call asking me to come in for an interview on Halloween! I had never interviewed before, so this was scary. Then the guy told me that they didn’t even know if they were going to hire a mid-career hire or go the internship route, and they had never had an intern before. That was the second time I gave up hope. A month later, I received the job offer, and I started working in December 2007.

From the start, I put money into the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP), which is the government’s 401k equivalent. My parents told me to take each raise I got and put it right into there also. If I was used to living on the lower amount, then keep the rest in savings. I followed that advice until I maxed out the contributions. I didn’t have trouble paying my bills, but I wasn’t saving as much as I should have for rainy days.

MY FINANCIAL HISTORY: MEETING MR. ODA

Mr. ODA showed up in my office in October 2009. Shortly after meeting him, we were hanging out, and next thing I knew, he was asking me my social security number. He was signing me up for a rewards credit card, since I had a credit card through my bank that was getting me no incentives. By the time I met him, I was living comfortably, but I wasn’t saving with a goal in mind. Whatever was left over became savings, and it didn’t matter to me what that number was. I was maxing out my TSP and paying my bills comfortably, and that seemed good enough for me.

OUR FINANCIAL HISTORY: IN A RELATIONSHIP

Mr. ODA came with a lot more money than that into the relationship. He had always been planning to save for two big purchases: an engagement ring and a house. To me, buying a house was somewhere down the road, but I didn’t have the confidence to move forward on that. I hope to instill that confidence in my children because that would have made a big difference.

Mr. ODA designed my engagement ring at a little mom and pop jewelry store in Harrisburg, PA (long story on where we’ve lived, for how long, and why). He proposed in November 2011. In December, I moved to DC, and Mr. ODA joined me shortly after. We lived in an apartment. We lived halfway between where he and I worked, but I admit we paid way more for rent than we prudently should have. Even though I grew up in the shadows of New York City, actually living in a big city was scary to me. We went on a house hunting trip, and I struggled with anything that didn’t look really nice/new. We were able to get a reduced rent rate, but at about $800 per month for each of us, it was significantly more than the $450 per month I was paying in Albany, NY.

The goal was to rent for a year while we scoped out the area to find a house to buy. We didn’t know anything about Northern Virginia, and we wanted to go to open houses to learn how far our money would go. Newsflash: not far.

OUR FINANCIAL HISTORY: A WEDDING

While we explored the area for a house, we were also planning a wedding. We paid for more than half of our wedding. My parents gave us a chunk of money towards it. If I had been married in Kentucky, it would have covered most of the wedding. However, I grew up on Long Island, and a wedding is a very different kind of event there. I probably wouldn’t have known any different had I not attended several weddings in South Carolina, where weddings were low key. After looking at venues in both Kentucky and New York, I ended up breaking down one day that I had always dreamed of a specific type of wedding, and Kentucky just wasn’t it.

I saved as much as I could in all the other areas since the venue was so expensive. The venue cost included all the catering, staff, and cake. I went cheap on invitations, my dress, favors. I just didn’t have the cash on hand to do a lot, and I wish I had done more. I also wish that I had been married on site at that venue instead of in my hometown church, but it is what it is. I also went cheaper on the photographer, and the day was terrible because of him. I recommend to everyone to get a good photographer and really check their portfolio (and if they do crazy things for photos, don’t trust that they’ll not do crazy things when you ask them not to).

We got married in August, after our November engagement. We had to lay out over $12k for that. The unexpected part of that was that we found a house to buy earlier that summer.

OUR FINANCIAL HISTORY: OUR FIRST HOUSE

Mr. ODA was a good saver. The problem was that he didn’t expect to pay for a wedding, and he didn’t expect to live in Northern Virginia. He was expecting to buy a house around $150k. We were struggling to find a house with walls and floors (literally) at $350k.

We lived a meager state for that year. Our goal was to spend less than $5 per day on food. That meant we weren’t spending money at restaurants. We were packing our lunches for work days. We were living off of macaroni and cheese. We weren’t taking trips. And yes, we were literally tracking our expenses on food each day.

THIS IS IMPORTANT: We were preapproved to buy a house up to $750,000. THAT IS STUPID. We didn’t want to pay PMI, so our purchasing power was based on our down payment being 20% (if you don’t come to the table for a conventional loan with 20% of the purchase price, the bank tacks on PMI). Between loans we could take from each TSP, cash on hand that we projected to have with our savings over the year, and possible liquidation of investments, we projected we could have about $70,000 on hand. That means we were shooting for $350,000 as the purchase price.

Our Realtor knew we were approved for double that, but we held our ground on our price range. We considered several properties. We put an offer in on a house at $380k. It was a bank owned foreclosure that they had flipped for resale. The flip was bare bones, but the house looked ok. We wouldn’t need to put immediate work into it. Our offer was declined. Then later that day, the bank called and asked if we still wanted it. We were instructed that the previous bidder attempted to counter the bank, and that’s why we were given the offer. We weren’t willing to lose it and accepted. We were under contract for a $380,000 house. That meant we needed at least $76,000 by closing.

Mr. ODA and I each took out TSP loans, we were gifted money from our parents, and we used our savings. Our final closing costs were just over $78k. We got our 20% down, so no PMI. We then spent the next 3-5 years paying ourselves back in our TSP. The loan payment amounts were adjustable, so we paid more when we could, but we had the flexibility to back off some of the payment totals if we needed to.

OUR FINANCIAL HISTORY: SELLING OUR FIRST HOUSE

We bought our first house in July 2012. We sold the house in September 2015. In that time, the house appreciated by $70k. On top of that, we had the 20% equity we had put down, and we had the equity for the principal payments we made over the previous 3 years. We were moving from the DC area down to the Richmond, VA area. We ended up purchasing a new construction home for about $360k. After putting 20% down on that purchase and paying off some debt (I had a car payment, and even though it was 0.9% interest, I wanted to manage less payments per month), we needed to decide on what to do with the rest of the money from the sale. Mr. ODA convinced my to put that towards rentals.

OUR FINANCIAL HISTORY: RENTAL PURCHASES

With that extra equity we had sitting in our account (which we had in an interest earning account), we purchased 3 rental properties (all with at least 20% down). The leap of faith we took into a landlord role, while figuring out things we didn’t know as we went is why we’re where we are now. We created a semi-passive income stream with these rental properties. Our savings continued to grow, which we used to purchase several more rental properties (again, with at least 20% down each time).

OUR FINANCIAL HISTORY: MRS. ODA ‘RETIRED’

By 2017, we had several rental properties, had paid off all our debts (e.g., car, TSP loans, IVF cost), and the net from the rentals was enough to replace my six-figure income. At that time, we had no kids, so there was no ‘real’ reason for me to not be working. As I continued to work, we kept it in mind that we’d be losing my regular income in the near future. I kept working, drawing down my leave balances, until our son was 8 months old (May 2019). I’ve worked a few random jobs here and there since then, but that was for something to do and not because we needed money.

MAKING GOALS

Mr. ODA had a goal of $1 million by 30. He exceeded it. At no point did we say “reach $4 million by 40” or anything like that. However, we’ve regularly tracked our net worth and made smart moves with the money we have. We don’t keep money in a liquid state for long. We make sure our money is working for us as much as possible. We take calculated risks that allow for interest earnings.

We also keep our ears open for extra income opportunities. We’ve been secret shoppers before, and I’ve taken on different short term work roles. That extra income isn’t meant to be frivolously spent; it’s income that we still utilize to move our family’s goals forward. We don’t buy the latest gadgets, but it’s not like we don’t have nice things. We spend will intention within our means; we don’t take out personal loans (e.g., furniture loans, layaway loans).

A goal that keeps moving due to preference is that Mr. ODA will stop working a full time job as well. The lack of insurance options is keeping that from becoming a reality, but if we really wanted to push it, he could quit tomorrow because we’re in a good financial spot. Nearly a year ago, we set up a separate bank account to have his pay check go into. It’s nice to know that we can live without his income, all the while having that bank account as a safety net.

Prepare for a Closing

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We have purchased 16 properties directly (3 personal residences) and 2 properties indirectly (partner); we’ve sold 3 properties. All houses have been mortgaged because we choose to leverage our money rather than own them outright (at least at first). This post covers the closing process in terms of clearing the loan processing.

Your loan must pass through underwriters before being approved and issued. The underwriter is evaluating your financial statements to determine risk and credit worthiness. While you’re given a pre-approval based on your credit score and report, the underwriter is verifying there are no other risk factors in the details. I’ll probably never cease to be amazed at what an underwriter focuses on – sometimes they want every account’s statement and several explanations, and sometimes they want you to confirm you don’t own a property that you never did own while ignoring the accounts you do own.

While a deadline is rarely given, you should provide the paperwork within a couple of days. The longer you take to gather the required documents, the more you jeopardize being able to close on time (the timeframe is set within the purchase agreement).

The are several documents that are going to be requested every time that you can keep filed away or know to start gathering them when you make the offer (some need to be more current than having them filed away). Inevitably, there will be follow up requests from the underwriter, so it’s best to get these files to them as quickly as possible.

  • Most recent 2 years of tax returns
    • Usually we just hand over the PDF version of our tax returns. One time, we actually had to fill out a transcript request form on the IRS page.
  • Proof of income (e.g., W-2)
  • Most recent paystub(s) (e.g., cover 30 days)
  • Color copy of drivers licenses
  • Most recent 1 or 2 bank statements
    • At the beginning of our purchasing, we had to provide a statement for every account (e.g., retirement, investments, banks). Over time, the request has become more focused on showing the statements associated with the accounts that will be used for funds as closing. I don’t know if this is related to our credit worthiness, or if it’s simply how they’ve streamlined the process. Here’s an example that shows they only requested accounts that make up our closing funds.
  • Proof of paid earnest money deposit (EMD)
    • EMD is a deposit made along with the signed contract. It’s the buyer’s showing of good faith to purchase the home. There are different expectations on the amount of the EMD. Sometimes it’s 1% of the purchase price, sometimes it’s a flat rate. We’ve just followed our agent’s lead on the amount to put on there, and it’s usually $1000 or $2000. The EMD is held by your Realtor’s office and credited to the total due at closing. If the buyer breaches the contract, the buyer may forfeit this deposit to the seller (e.g., backing out of the purchase without invoking a clause within he contract, such as the home inspection clause).
    • Proof is usually given by showing the check image along with the bank statement from the account it cleared.
  • Insurance agent contact information
    • This isn’t always known at closing, but you’ll need to provide your agent’s information before closing so that escrow can be set up. If the property won’t be escrowed, then you’ll need to provide proof of an executed policy before closing.

When investment properties are involved, you’ll need to provide documentation associated with those properties. For instance, a mortgage statement may be sufficient if you have the taxes and insurance escrowed. If you don’t have it escrowed or don’t have a mortgage, then you need to provide the current tax statement and insurance declaration. You’ll also be asked whether the property is subject to an HOA, and, if it is, you’ll provide a statement or coupon book showing the payment schedule. Neither Mr. ODA nor I are patient when it comes to illogical requests. For example, we were asked to give mortgage statements for all of our properties, as well as tax documentation and insurance policies for every property. Well, if the property is escrowed, then I don’t have tax paperwork because it’s sent to the bank, nor should I have to prove that the taxes are paid since it’s managed by the bank. I eventually provided all the tax documents though – it just took a while.

There may be large deposits or withdrawals that you’re requested to explain. For instance, I had to sign a statement that the deposit in our account was from the sale of our house. While it can be tracked with paperwork, there are many instances where the underwriter wants the details explicitly stated, versus making assumptions. For the example below, I provided the corresponding withdrawal from our main checking account.

Our first home purchase was at the same time as our wedding (we closed on our house on July 15 and got married on August 4!). A NY wedding isn’t cheap, and we were attempting to pay 20% down on our DC suburb home ($$$), so there was a lot of money movement around this time. Since my parents were helping pay for the wedding, we had large cash deposits into our account that had to be explained. We also had several investment account liquidation transactions. The underwriter had a hard time following the flow of money, and it took me several, very detailed, emails to show how each liquidation entered our checking account. We also had to provide gift letters, which stated we were gifted these sums of money and there was no expectation of paying it back (thereby creating another liability). That’s probably been the hardest closing in terms of our financial status, to date.

You may be requested to provide updated bank statements closer to the closing date, especially if there’s over a month between the initial documents given and the closing date. When you go into a closing, you’re told that it’s not a good idea to open new credit cards, make large purchases, or do anything along those lines that would affect your credit worthiness. They run a recheck of your credit before closing to ensure your credit card balances are about the same, and that there’s been no new credit opened in your name. Verification of more recent bank statements accomplishes the same.

We’ve had two closings delayed.

House 5‘s sale was about 6 weeks delayed due to the buyer’s lack of responsiveness. They didn’t respond to information requests quickly and struggled to provide the necessary documents to underwriting. Unfortunately, as the seller, our only ‘play’ is to take their EMD and walk away. If it’s bad enough, this is worth it. But it brings you back to square one. This was an off-market deal, which is enticing to see through rather than attempt to list and sell it. If we decide not to sell, we’re now looking at January or February before we had a renter; it could be even longer since we struggled in the summer to find someone for the house. Plus, the EMD doesn’t cover the lack of rent we experienced while under contract, where we expected to lose only one month of rental income, but it turned into 2.5 months. We had our Realtor (who was a dual agent, unfortunately for this matter) lean into the attorney on the buyer’s side after already being weeks beyond the contract’s closing date. By the time their delays were acknowledged, it was Christmas, which delayed closing into January, unfortunately.

Houses 12 and 13 were purchased together (and not yet discussed here). That closing was delayed a week, and it was completely the loan officer’s fault. We, the consumer, obviously get no restitution for their mishap. He didn’t order the appraisal timely and then had to put a rush on it, but it still didn’t come in on time. He created several errors in our paperwork (including the house number of one of the purchases). It got so bad that we just worked with the title agency, and she was awesome at getting all the documentation in order, even if it was a week later and Mr. ODA had to be my power of attorney!

Be prepared and be responsive. Understand that the bank is doing their due diligence and you want to be able to close on the loan and purchase that property. While there will be several requests for information, keep in mind that it’s over a short period of time and will soon be over.